Archive for November, 2009

The Holy Spirit is a Person

Thursday, November 19th, 2009

I have previously blogged concerning the divinity of Jesus at jesusandjews.com/wordpress/2009/10/16/the-divinity-of-jesus/ as well as the concept of the triunity of the Godhead from an Old Testament perspective at jesusandjews.com/wordpress/2009/07/30/god-is-one/

You know that there are several religions and cults that recognize the nature of God as being “one” but mostly there concept of oneness portrays God as being “one” numerically versus a oneness as related to a unity of being which incorporates three persons which are of the same substance or essence as a compound unity .

When discussing theology I find that one of the many mystery’s about God are His definable points related to His incorporeal nature and being. Perhaps it is easier to describe His attributes rather than the very nature of His existence. Anyway I have already discussed these issues in these other blogs that I have previously posted.

So to begin with there are those who see the Holy Spirit as just an emanation of God’s power as being some type of indirect source. For them the Holy Spirit is just another synonymous term as related to God without any particular uniqueness.

Others may see Him as one of the several split personalities of God as one being.

While others view the Holy Spirit as one of many Gods which depicts tritheism or polytheism. As you can see there is a variance of different outlooks on the Holy Spirit and I’m not even for sure if I understand everyones opinion or position on this matter .

Anyway I will be discussing the Holy Spirit in this blog mainly from a New Testament perspective. Though the Old Testament may imply a separate identity for the Holy Spirit it is not as well defined or developed as the New Testament text.

My main objective in this post is to show that the Holy Spirit is a “person” rather than just a “thing.”

There are about 35 personal attributes to the Holy Spirit which are located in the scripture and these describe Him as a distinct person being unified in His role and purpose as a part of the triune Godhead.

The Holy Spirit has individual characteristics which are harmonious and yet unique as a personal being apart from the Father and the Son.

Some of the confusion comes because the Holy Spirit is so closely related as being unified as God that the scripture relates to His being as the Spirit of the Lord, Spirit of God, Spirit of Jesus, etc.

Yet there are personal references that clearly show his identity apart from the Father and the Son as in John 14:16.

It’s this possessive state that confuses others and yet this same possession is referred to of Jesus as related to the Father who is the Lord’s Messiah, Luke 2:26.

Also Jesus talks about the unity of God by stating that He and the Father are “one” in a special sense but in actuality they are two persons.

Jesus also states if you have seen Me than you have seen the Father John 14:9. There is such a unity that to speak of one is to refer to the other likewise.

In discussing the personhood of the Holy Spirit I will keep with referring to just a few choice scriptures and yet it may behoove you to do a fuller unbiased analysis to His person and work in relation to the content of this blog.

Anyway one of the main personal references to the Holy Spirit is by relating to Him through the use of various pronouns in using such words as “He” which is often associated with or used when referencing the Holy Spirit. John 15:26, 16:7, 8,13

In addition to this the Holy Spirit carries a title which indicates an individual who possesses personal qualities as a “Comforter” or “Counselor”

John 14:16, 26, 15:26, 16:7

Another reason why the Spirit is not just a synonymous word for God is that  in John 16:13 its says that the Spirit of truth will not speak on His own but will speak only what He hears. Not only does it show that the Holy Spirit has a will but that He hears from another source and cannot speak on His own authority. If He is just an emanation of the numerically one absolute God then how is it that the Spirit of truth needs a directive on truth if He is the primary source of truth. The Holy Spirit isn’t just hearing voices but rather He is hearing from the Godhead.

In Matthew 28:19, 1 Corinthians 12:4-6, 2 Corinthians 13:14, 1 Peter 1:2 these scriptures relate to the divine triunity of God which show all three personalities present in a unified sense as God.

I realize the debate isn’t so much in seeing the Spirit as God but rather it is seeing the Spirit as being a separate person. I guess from a reverse angle it hard for us to even imagine this concept as it applies to us since we have both a material and a immaterial state of being but often when we view a person we often think of them as a whole being.

One thing we have to be mindful here is that the contributors of the New Testament text were raised in a Jewish culture and they were seen as fierce monotheists and as confessors of the one true and only God and for someone to misunderstand their position on that would be a critical misunderstanding.

Though these scriptures, that are under scrutiny, seem to show at times a separation of the Godhead these Jews were loyalists to the God of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob who confessed their God as being “One” as found in the Shema Deuteronomy 6:4, Mark 12:29. Again I discuss more fully the oneness concept of God as related in my other blogs.

There are many mystery’s contained within the bible for the modern reader and there were even great difficulties among the contemporaries of Jesus who were his personal disciples. They were continually  grappling with the truths that Jesus taught. It wasn’t until the Spirit of truth was deposited that they received a fuller revelation of understanding regarding the application of the word of God.

Even with the advent of the Holy Spirit the church struggled with difficult issues that needed clarification of which we see explained in many of the epistles.

Those who were the primary apostles of Jesus had debates such as the whole Gentile thing and how they were to to fit into God’s plan of redemption.

Even the angelic beings strain to gain insight into matters as related to God 1Peter 1:12.

Also Jesus in His humanity stated that there were only things of which the Father had knowledge of such as his returning in Matthew 24:36.

So I find it difficult for any believer to be overly dogmatic on understanding every little minute detail to this subject of God’s being and the bible states that on this side of eternity that we look through a glass darkly and that we know in part which shows that there is an obscurity or limitation to understanding everything with a perfected state of knowledge.

I am not saying that we shouldn’t strive to gain an understanding of the deep things of God through the spiritual intellect that he has gifted us with but perhaps there is a point where we need to simply accept the testimony of the scripture and avoid speculation.

I truly believe that God reserves the right to keep somethings a mystery and if one of these thing is His very being than I’m ok with that.

You know we can’t even understand the intimate dynamics of the Holy Spirit that indwells our being spatially let alone understand a God we have never seen Joel 2:28, Romans 8:11, Acts 2:4, 1 Corinthians 3:16, Galatians 4:6.

Perhaps where the scripture is silent than maybe thats a clue for us to remain silent. If  God wanted us to know everything related to His existence then He would of made it perfectly clear. If this matter was to be made known fully than it would have been God’s agenda and objective in establishing this kind of revelation truth to His earthly creatures. Yet it seems like other themes such as the redemption of mankind took a higher precedence versus discussing every theological inquiry.

There is no way to limit God through the publishing of 66 books because there could never be enough books in the universe written to contain exhaustively His glorious description. So to say that we know everything about God is both arrogant and ignorant.

You know what is scary in regards to all of this is not the fact that we don’t have all the answers for every question but rather its being deceived into thinking that we do have an answer when we don’t.

I prefer to allow God to be God to the degree that the bible describes and this also includes the person of the Holy Spirit.

Lastly this may not answer every question to the nature of the Holy Spirit but perhaps this may open up other possibilities on how you view His person.

 

How to know God

Jehovah’s Witness Resources

More articles on Jehovah’s Witness

Muslim Resources of Jesus

Wednesday, November 18th, 2009

This is a great websites that is very informative.

carm.org/islam

This website contains testimonials of Muslims who have had personal encounters with Jesus

www.answering-islam.org/Testimonies/index.html

 

Four Spiritual Laws

 

Jesus Film

 

New Testament/Bible

 

Audio Bible

Mormon Resources

Wednesday, November 18th, 2009

1. This is a great website that is very informative.

carm.org/mormonism

2. This website contains testimonials of former Mormon’s

www.4mormon.org/ex-mormon-testimonies/

3. Four Spiritual Laws

Jehovah’s Witness Resources

Wednesday, November 18th, 2009

This is a great website that is very informative.

carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses

 

This website contains testimonials of former Jehovah’s Witnesses

www.4jehovah.org/ex-jehovahs-witnesses/ex-jw-testimonies/

 

Four Spiritual Laws

 

Jesus Film

 

New Testament/Bible

 

Audio Bible

Jewish Resources of Jesus

Wednesday, November 18th, 2009

These are some great websites that are very informative.

chosenpeople.com/site/

www.jews-for-jesus.org/

realmessiah.askdrbrown.org/

 

This website contains testimonials of Jewish people who have had personal encounters with Jesus

Life Stories

 

Other links

Four Spiritual Laws

Jesus Film

New Testament/Bible

Audio Bible

Atheist and Agnostic Resources

Wednesday, November 18th, 2009

1. This is a great website that is very informative.

www.carm.org/atheism

 

2. This website contains a list of well known and credible scientists who are creationists.

www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-scientists.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology

 

3. Here are some cool pictures taken by Nasa called the “hand and eye of God”

www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_1323.html

apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap030510.html

 

4. This website contains testimonials of people who have had near death experiences.

Final Frontier

www.godtube.com/watch/?v=KYD7DPNX

www.godtube.com/watch/?v=F1JJCMNU

 

5. A man who was raised from the dead.

www.cbn.com/media/player/index.aspx?s=/mp4/SUS198_DrChaunceyCrandall_062011_WS

 

6. Visions and Dreams of  Jesus

 

7. Stories and Testimonies of Jesus’ Healing Miracles

www1.cbn.com/700club/episodes/all/amazing-stories

Is the Qur’an sacred?

Monday, November 9th, 2009

When considering the sacredness of the Qur’an we must analyze it like any other piece of literature to authenticate its claims of origin.

The Qur’an is given such a high status within Islam that it has bordered on being an object of idolatry among many of the practitioners of the faith.

In addition to this Islam has made claims to its inspiration that go beyond the textual evidence of the script.

When studying Mormonism I saw some similarities to that of the traditions of Islam. Mormons believe in a heavenly inscription that was transcribed on golden tablets and through the directive of an angelic being these heavenly tablets were located and secured for transliteration.

Also Joseph Smith was committed to supposedly finding the one true faith and this led further to him having many supposed encounters and revelations of divine truth, likewise.

Yet in spite of these divine revelations the “Book of Mormon” like the Qur’an is less than a perfect document.

The Muslim may claim that the Qur’an is the most perfect and beautiful of all sources of literature which according to Islam authenticates its divine inspiration as a means of internal evidence.

Yet this was also the position of Joseph Smith concerning the Book of Mormon in which he stated that it is the most perfect of all books ever written.

However, both of these texts come up short in their claims to divine origin by lacking the polish of perfection that they both claim to have obtained. Claiming and being are two different things and a person must prove or at least give reasonable or plausible evidence that supports its platform for truth.

To begin the Qur’an derives its source from a single founder who is of a questionable character.

Muhammad from the onset of these revelations doubted his own sanity as he didn’t know whether he was a mad man or a poet. He questioned himself as being possessed by demons and this was because of the occultic manifestations related to him receiving these revelations such as the strange behavior of foaming at the mouth or roaring like a camel. Another question related to the prophet is why would Allah choose an illiterate to communicate a literate truth that wasn’t even compiled during his lifetime.

Anyway I discuss more of this in another blog that I posted at

jesusandjews.com/wordpress/2009/04/26/is-muhammad-a-false-prophet/

Also one of the concerns related to the Qur’an is the originality of the text considering that the Qur’an borrows its literature from secondary sources. These sources are the bible and various heretical teachings such as the Judeo Christian apocryphal literature which were outside the community of faith because they never measured up to divine inspiration. These apocryphal writings were relegated to the cultish fringes of both Jewish and Christian culture and were never taken seriously.

Alongside of this literature there was also the influence of the oral traditions of the Persian Zoroastrians that was included within the Quranic writings.

So how does Allah borrow his heavenly message from the fallacy of earthly messengers and human tradition?

What perfection or miracle can one achieve from the human invention of imagination which was rejected by the communities that originated the literature as being less than perfect?

If Islam is the supreme religion then why didn’t it originate its own source material rather than borrowing the leftovers of other religious movements that surrounded the culture of Islam at this time in history? How original is that?

Another question that comes up is the collating of this supposed sacred text which was dependent upon rudimentary and fragmentary pieces of perishable materials such as bone, wood, leather, leaves, and rocks.

The Qur’an was also assembled by obtaining testimony through the fallible intellect of memory and speech which would demand exactness and preciseness like some type of a total recall in order to ensure its infallibility.

Is this anyway to record or treat what was to be a monumental piece of literature in being described as the “mother of all books” or is it in reality no different than any other piece of ancient literature.

The Qur’an has never been proven to have been assembled either during the life of Muhammad or shortly after his death but rather the evidence shows that the Qur’an was compiled and evolved over a period of 150 to 200 years following the expiration of the prophet and it was finally canonized in the 8th or 9th century.

Scholars conclude that the sayings of the Qur’an were gathered not by one man but by a group of men over a period of a couple hundred years.

The oldest copy of the Qur’an was written in the Ma’il script dating it to about 790 A.D. which is about 150 years after the death of Muhammad.

Even the oldest manuscript fragments that are in existence are still a 100 years separated from the time of Muhammad.

In addition to this Uthman’s copies are  no longer in existence either and though Islamic scholars claim otherwise the reality is that the Kufic script which is contained in these controversial texts was not in use during the time of Uthman and did not show up until 150 years later after Uthman’s demise.

Also supposedly the Arabic language is the heavenly tongue of Allah and if the Qur’an originated with Allah then why does the Quran borrow its communication through the use of foreign words or languages such as Acadian, Assyrian, Persian, Syriac, Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, and Ethiopic.

If the Qur’an is so authentic then why is there not a Textus Originalis or original text still available especially since we have documents that predate the advent of Islam that have survived completely intact? Surely Allah in his sovereignty could preserve his own sacred text.

Concerning the history of the Qur’an it was supposedly collated under Zaid ibn Thabit who was a personal secretary to Muhammad. Zaid under the directive of Abu Bakr was to take and make a document from the sayings of Muhammad.

Consequently, during the reign of Uthman, the third Caliph, a deliberate attempt was made to standardize the Qur’an and impose a single text upon the whole Muslim community which led to the making of other copies to Zaid’s codice while in turn destroying all other competitive documents.

Who is to say that this text was standard since one man was to be the final authority versus the community of believers some of which were personal companions to Muhammad?

Now we have copies upon copies alongside of this previously existing text. How do we know that what we have really represents the true Qur’an and would Muhammad even have recognized all of its content?

Also since much of the manuscript evidence was destroyed we do not have an accurate way of reconstructing a purer text.

The differences between all four of these co-existing codices of Zaid, Abdullah ibn Mas’ud, Abu Musa, and Ubayy, contain deviations and deletions between them and yet the originators of the text were credible individuals in relation to Muhammad.

Abdullah Mas’ud was appointed by Muhammad as a teacher of Quranic recitation and Ubayy was a secretary to the prophet.

My question is whose manuscript was right or more authoritative among the personal disciples of the prophet?

Who was Uthman to be the final authority of correctness since there was other authoritative texts of which were recognized by other communities?

Also when Zaid compiled the text he forgot to include some of the sayings as related to “stoning”.

Now after all of this struggle to unify the text it was later reviewed and revised by al-Hajjaj who was the governor of Kufa.

He initially amended 11 of the texts and finally his changes were later reduced to seven.

Following upon this action the Hafsah text, which was the original document from which the final text was taken, was later destroyed by Mirwan, the governor of Medina.

Also another phenomenon in the Qur’an is one of abrogation’s which is a way of dealing with internal contradictions which are explained as an improvement upon the text.

I am wondering how you can correct something that is already perfect since this revelation only covered a period of 20 years and didn’t need any improvement yet to facilitate the evolution of cultural standards?

The number of abrogations is said to be between 5 to 500. Others say it stands closer to 225. What this shows us is that the science of abrogation is an inexact science indeed, as no-one really knows how many of the verses are to be abrogated.

In addition to the internal contradictions there are also scientific as well as grammatical errors as well.

In joining to all of these discrepancies is the growing number of Hadiths which suddenly appeared in the 9th century which is 250 years after the fact.

Of the original 600,000 hadith sayings that were in circulation at this time only a little over 7,000 of them survived leaving 99% of these traditions as being classified as erroneous.

Yet if 99% are inaccurate then how can we trust this 1% that Al Bukhari approved of?

The Muslim tradition also evolved through oral transmission of the storytellers or Kussas whose works were finally compiled no earlier than the 8th century. These stories were taken from common folklore and embellished thus bringing a greater distortion to Islam.

Also if you have ever been involved in the game of telephone or passing on a story to a large group of people one at a time  you often end up with a whole different story once the final person has had the story passed on to them.

Now spread this out over a couple of hundred years and what do you think is the end result to this practice?

For the Qur’an to be regarded as Allah’s blueprint or the greatest wonders of wonders without literary equivalent  is sounding more like an exaggeration that is unfounded on many fronts.

The Qur’an leaves more questions than it does answers.

Is the Qur’an a superb piece of literature par excellence or does it fall short of its claim to fame?

Does it possess a beauty in the text unequaled to any other piece of literature? This is an opinion left to the ear of the beholder as there are plentiful pieces of classical literature, of which the Qur’an borrows from, that surpass this literary genre based on the opinions of others.

For a book that is supposed to be second to none it has often been described as incoherent and badly edited at points and also it is not able to stand up to the criticism and scrutiny of others who are able to take more of an objective view to its authenticity.

For others within the movement it is to be obediently embraced with an unquestioned bias of mindless submission which keeps the worshipper from thinking critically about its content.

To question the text would be to question Allah and his prophet which is beyond the scope of Muslim thought which would see this as an act of betrayal and defiance resulting in dire consequences with eternal repercussions.

You may say it’s a miracle for the Qur’an to survive after all of these transitionary phases of Islam and yet I say based upon the evidence it would take a miracle for me to believe that this message is a divine revelation.

In conclusion I really don’t have any other comments regarding the Qur’an. The only thing I have left to say is that I hope I have not overstated my case by my direct wording and therefore have shown disrespect towards my Muslim friends.

This is difficult to do because when a religion is so engrafted within a personal faith than anything that is offered as a challenge to the mindset of religious thought then it is often viewed as a threat or a form of hostility.

I ask that you please forgive me if all I have done was to only rouse your anger rather than your suspicions towards the text that you hold as being sacred.

Again my intent is not to offend but to defend truth and to walk its path wherever it may ultimately lead us.

Lastly for more information on this subject you can refer to the articles as written by Jay Smith of which I related to when posting this blog

How to know God

Muslim Resources of Jesus

Islam and Jesus